The historian Jon Meacham on Donald Trump’s prospects for 2024, and his own reason for turning down a formal role in the Biden Administration.
and a kind of more militant secularism, to say that in fact religion has shaped us without strangling us. It was kind of a Jeffersonian argument, in that many, many Americans are religious. It is a calculation they make. It may not be the dispositive one, but it is a force. So to try to legislate it out of existence, or to tend toward theocracy—both extremes are wrong. Here’s a middle course.
That’s fair. Now, you were asked to be in the Administration just recently. You decided not to do that. Why? In many ways, it was. I wanted—imagine saying this sentence—I thought that our current moment was like 1933 or 1968 [in America], where there were proto-fascist forces around; there was a sense that democracy had run out its string, that dictatorship was the wave of the future, as Anne Morrow Lindbergh put it, in the middle of the twentieth century. And that enough conscientious effort went into keeping democracy alive.
So that’s one thing. The other thing is, is Joe Biden up to it? Abraham Lincoln’s capacities, his eloquence, were extraordinary, by any measure. Joe Biden is an older guy whose eloquence is not Lincolnesque, and he also has a lot of other things on his plate, including a land war in Europe and any number of other issues impinging on him, to say nothing about the fate of the planet itself.
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