The HBO miniseries started by chronicling what brought NXIVM down, but it ended by examining its appeal.
In plot terms, Part I leads up to Keith’s arrest and Part II encompasses his trial. But for me the real divider is that in the first part, you’re dealing mainly with people who have chosen to get out of NXIVM, and in the second you’re focusing more on the ones who stayed till the end—and in some cases, still support Keith. You go from the defectors to the diehards.Yeah, that’s right. And, of course, we didn’t know what side of the line many people would fall on.
Nancy is such a complicated character. It’s open to question whether or what she knew about DOS, for example—Sarah and Mark certainly believe she must have known something—but at the very least we see her helping to build this incredibly toxic culture in which abuse essentially can’t exist. If you’re “at cause” and something bad happens to you, it’s your fault.
Nancy does eventually seem to reckon with what Keith has done and who he is, largely because of the testimony by Daniela and Camila, which also played a critical role in the trial. But then you have what ends up being called the “NXIVM Five,” who are still standing by Keith after all of it and don’t seem to have any doubts at all.
Our hope was really to show the dilemma, because that was actually the conversation that was going on in NXIVM and ESP all the time as it was breaking down, which is, “Well, I benefited from this course or that course, and so just because Keith manipulated and abused people, am I supposed to throw the baby out with the bathwater?” And we felt like that Tourette’s episode really brought, in a very clear way, those questions forward.
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