The diva and the Duchess spoke about representation, perception, and figuring out how to fit in.
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Markle admitted this was a big reason why she wanted to talk to Carey, calling the singer “so formative” and noting that, even as a young kid, she could tell Carey was also biracial. “Representation matters so much, but when you’re a woman, and you don’t see a woman who looks like you somewhere, in a position of power or influence… You came onto the scene, and it was like, ‘Oh my gosh.
Markle went on to talk about how being biracial, but light-skinned, often led to her being treated as neither a Black woman nor a white woman: “You sort of fit in between.” But Markle noted that the dynamic shifted drastically when she started dating her now-husband, Prince Harry, saying, “Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a Black woman. Because up until then, I had been treated like a mixed woman. And things really shifted.
Carey added, “That’s an interesting thing, a ‘mixed woman.’ Because I always thought it should be ok to say, ‘I’m mixed.’ It should be ok to say that, but people want you to choose.”
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