Adrien Brody and Jeremy Strong on Finding Pleasure in the Pain

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Adrien Brody and Jeremy Strong on Finding Pleasure in the Pain
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From our upcoming Spring Issue, adrienbrody speaks to his onscreen rival, and one of the few actors in Hollywood to match his famous intensity, JeremyStrong about the difference between actors and movie stars and the universality of suffering.

STRONG: I love what you’re saying about the relief of shifting the attention off of ourselves. I read somewhere that the root of the word ecstasy is basically a term for the loss of self. It brings us this sense of being a drop in a bigger ocean. Let’s talk abouta little bit. I love the show. There’s a beautiful scene where you, as Pat Riley, come in and say something like, “I just want to be around the game. I have more to give to it.

BRODY: I didn’t think, “I’m going to stay flying high.” I couldn’t have even told you what that was at that moment. It was such a bizarre occurrence, because I had been acting for 17 years. I’d been kicking around, doing plays in junior high in the Lower East Side and Alphabet City, taking the train to drama school, going to auditions, going off here and there.

STRONG: Your mom was right. There is a fourth person in the room. It’s a transformational thing. You hear the phrase “journeyman actor”—and I don’t love the term “movie star”—but I think of you as a “journeyman movie star,” which is in its own sort of class, because there aren’t many true movie stars who remain lean and mean in that one-bedroom, committed to the work no matter what heights they rise to. I think that’s laudable.

STRONG: Thank you. I read something once that [Rainer Maria] Rilke said: “All good art is a product of having been in danger.” I feel like I look for that in anything I do. Is there risk here? Is there a possibility of endangering myself somehow? You’re not making lazy choices, you’re not making conventional choices. You’re seeking risk and transformation. I also wanted to ask you about your studio and what that is for you.

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